| Bernarda Bryson (1903-2004) is the
        epitome of the socially progressive artist. In 1933 she interviewed the
        muralist Diego Rivera and met his assistant, Ben Shahn, to be her lifelong
        companion.   LIZA KIRWIN: You worked as an illustrator for about twenty years? BERNARDA SHAHN: Yes, easily, or longer. I worked for lots of other magazines.
          I loved working for the Reporter. I did a lot for them. I
          worked for Life a couple of times. Seventeen, anything – Those
          three magazines were steady. It was most exciting to work for the Scientific
          American. With the most wonderful and unwarranted confidence,
          they believed in everything I did. It is a scientific magazine. I used
          Doctor Einstein for research; I used Doctor Laudenberg, who was the
          head of the math department at Princeton. Everything I did the Scientific
          American seemed to think was great. Once when I did a story for Fortune,
          I put a modern – one of those things they
          blow up on your arm –
 LIZA KIRWIN: To measure blood pressure? BERNARDA SHAHN: Yes. In the picture. One of the editors said that this
          is not what this thing looks like. I said, “This is a very modern
          one.” Then I said to them, “Look, if the Scientific
          American can accept my research, you can, too, can’t you?” [laugh]
          You know you have those fights.
 Smithsonian oral interview 1983    THE
        TRANSIENTS MAY 1953
  COMPANY
          WIVES NOVEMBER 1951
  AUTO INSURANCE - BATTERED BY ITS OWN BOOM OCTOBER 1960
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